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Sploda
Not really, from what i’ve read that’s one of the stages where you can know for certain that you have a tulpa, right?
It's one of the stronger indicators, yes--if they already have a well-defined personality, which it sounds like they do, you can move on to vocalization exercises. That means asking them questions, and waiting for responses--ultimately, whether you count any thought that pops up afterwards as "hers" is up to you
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By the way, this is a pretty good picture of her
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KIZO!
I just HATE when they go asleep though
That does sound distressing--like, your tulpa can just go dormant without warning? I wonder how that happens
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blanka
It's one of the stronger indicators, yes--if they already have a well-defined personality, which it sounds like they do, you can move on to vocalization exercises. That means asking them questions, and waiting for responses--ultimately, whether you count any thought that pops up afterwards as "hers" is up to you
Hmmm
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Today benn did that door like half the day
3:17 AM
My tulpa
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I’ll try it for a while and see if anything happens
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I couldn't talk to him and when he came back he was like "I was taking a nap"
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:17 AM
that happened to us a few times… one time really really badly…
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blank neue ↩️
Reply to: That does sound distressing--like, your tulpa can just go dormant without warning? I wonder how that…
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Definitely a bit annoyed
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KIZO!
Definitely a bit annoyed
(I have limited understanding of this.) Is it possible that they’ve disappeared because you’ve completely stopped thinking about them for a period of time? (edited)
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Well if ur dissipating then then yeah idk if it's normal in my case
3:19 AM
Apart from all of this nice to meet you guys
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Sploda
I’ll try it for a while and see if anything happens
Good luck! There are a lot of guides out there which should be helpful if you're looking for advice
3:20 AM
nice to meet you too! Your tulpa (proto-tulpa? Imaginary friend? Whatever you want to call them right now) seems nice :) It looks like you have a very well-developed imagination
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If not well-developed, it’s definitely strong
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The thing in talking about
3:21 AM
It's what happened to me one day when someone else was fronting I just kinda like went asleep for a little bit I wasn't even aware of myself then the headmate called me and I was aware of myself and talking again
3:22 AM
I think that's what's going on with my tulpa(s)
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:22 AM
the headmate in question still has not made a full recovery from the event, after well over six months (probably around a year or more by now) But we are getting closer
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Skyler 🐉 ↩️
Reply to: that happened to us a few times… one time really really badly… 📎
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Interesting
3:23 AM
Was it like a breai
3:23 AM
Break
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KIZO!
Like my thoughts are in one room and his are in another unless we talk to each other
A long kiss goodnight 7/8/2023 3:36 AM
I have heard about this happening before, but I'm curious to see if there are other similarities. Can you tell me more about what it's like to talk to your tulpa? I don’t want to suggest something and project my thoughts onto you
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:36 AM
there was no pleasantness in it that a break would imply
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I had a thought just now
3:38 AM
When I am asking Luna questions, and I am vetoing certain responses as my own thoughts and not hers, does that mean that I can change the way she thinks right now by waiting for different responses?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:38 AM
that would make sense
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That just makes me think though, if i’m vetoing certain responses that are actually hers, it feels like i’m denying her freedom somewhat
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:40 AM
brain is weird. Just let her do what she asks, it’s not really dong harm if she doesn’t mind, right?
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sploda. ↩️
Reply to: That just makes me think though, if i’m vetoing certain responses that are actually hers, it feels…
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I mean I guess
3:40 AM
This whole thing is still so new to me
3:40 AM
I literally only learned the word tulpa yesterday
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:41 AM
it was a stressful experience, with no apparent trigger.. I should have tried ending it forcefully instead of waiting…
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Skyler 🐉 ↩️
Reply to: there was no pleasantness in it that a break would imply
3:44 AM
ethics can be difficult when it comes to plurality.
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sploda. ↩️
Reply to: I literally only learned the word tulpa yesterday
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Sploda
That just makes me think though, if i’m vetoing certain responses that are actually hers, it feels like i’m denying her freedom somewhat
A long kiss goodnight 7/8/2023 3:44 AM
If you don't want a tulpa that's their own person, then deliberately sculpting them like a character with little wiggle room would result in a character. However, if your goal is to create a tulpa who is their own person, I wouldn't worry about this. It's normal for hosts to struggle with understanding their tulpa's responses, I wouldn't beat yourself up about it The key is if you want them to be a tulpa, they will become one (edited)
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Skyler 🐉
ethics can be difficult when it comes to plurality.
By the context of this sentence, that implies creating a tulpa is essentially intentionally becoming plural
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:45 AM
that is correct
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interesting but cool
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Sploda
So, beginning. Around 3 years ago, I found a large stuffed bear about 3 feet tall that I would spend every night playing ‘pretend’ with. I would pretend as if the bear was an actual person, usually a character from something or a character i’ve made up. Luna, is one of these characters from my own imagination, and has by far persisted beyond any of the others for how often I talk to her and how much I care for her. Her character description is this: She is an android created by Cinamiyna on a planet known as Morka 9 (fictional) in the galaxy Virgo A/Messier 87, and was created with the express purpose of being a perfect partner for me and suiting every preference I could have in a girl. At the time of her conception, I was severely depressed and greatly needed love, finding it in my own imagination.
@A long kiss goodnight
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:45 AM
you go from just you in your head to you and your tulpa in your head That means multiple people in one head That means plural system
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I see
3:46 AM
Idea, could I be a proxy and type out the responses from Luna that come to my head?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:46 AM
absolutely
3:47 AM
you can even make her a profile on Pluralkit or tupperbox
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Sploda
By the context of this sentence, that implies creating a tulpa is essentially intentionally becoming plural
A long kiss goodnight 7/8/2023 3:47 AM
Do note that the experience of having tulpas is not the same as giving yourself DID. Tulpamancy is a different experience.
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What’s DID
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:48 AM
dissociative identity disorder Type of disorder associated with plurality
3:48 AM
tulpas ≠ DID
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A long kiss goodnight 7/8/2023 3:50 AM
Dissociative Identity Disorder A coping mechanism in response to severe childhood trauma. Instead of tulpas, you have alters, and the system with DID has intense dissociation experiences. For example, they wake up in a strange place wearing different clothes and realizing 3 days are suddenly gone dissociation. While tulpamancers can have trauma, their experiences are not the same as those with DID (edited)
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Ok then good to know
3:51 AM
So, how do I make the pluralkit thing work
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:51 AM
I’ll help
3:51 AM
nvm looks like ranger’s got you
3:52 AM
…wow it’s late, Almost midnight.
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A long kiss goodnight
I have heard about this happening before, but I'm curious to see if there are other similarities. Can you tell me more about what it's like to talk to your tulpa? I don’t want to suggest something and project my thoughts onto you
Like all of our thoughts don't mix or are exposed to each other until we're switched or blurred
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it's the same with me and actually even when we're switched our thoughts aren't necessarily exposed to each other often i just kinda disappear when i'm not fronting, even if i get called on
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Yeah that's what happens with us!
1:07 PM
We disappear but like I've made 2 terms for me Offline - just not talking, possibly spectating just call on them so they can talk Asleep - like offline but not responding at all and can last longer
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makes sense
1:10 PM
Deep slumber
1:10 PM
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I wonder why it's different for us Cuz it's my understanding that usually the host doesn't just stop responding
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It happened to me once it just didn't feel like anything if anything it felt like I didn't exist for a moment then I came back when I was called
1:13 PM
And I'm the host
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/8/2023 1:14 PM
you just forget you exist
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KIZO!
It happened to me once it just didn't feel like anything if anything it felt like I didn't exist for a moment then I came back when I was called
Yeah that's how it felt for me too
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Just spectating
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Kei Wendt
Yeah that's how it felt for me too
Except even when eishi tried to contact me i wasn't there
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It felt so weird
1:15 PM
But not during it
1:15 PM
After it I was like "that was kinda weird"
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/8/2023 1:15 PM
its just the brain swapping the main personality and everyone shares the same consciousness
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Kei Wendt
Except even when eishi tried to contact me i wasn't there
Yes that is going on with one of my tulpas currently
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
its just the brain swapping the main personality and everyone shares the same consciousness
Usually my headmates can still talk to me when they're switched in though But a bunch of times they haven't been able to Eishi was even stuck in front once
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
its just the brain swapping the main personality and everyone shares the same consciousness
Ig that makes some sense especially with the forgetting yourself thing you said earlier
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Kei Wendt
Usually my headmates can still talk to me when they're switched in though But a bunch of times they haven't been able to Eishi was even stuck in front once
He just... couldn't find me
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A long kiss goodnight 7/8/2023 1:17 PM
(Sorry for typing and not responding, I'm realizing now I should invest more than a tiny bit of attention for this. I'll come back later) (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/8/2023 1:17 PM
i can kind of try to push myself through back in
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I can try to talk to one of my tulpas who are kinda like frozen currently and I won't get an answer
1:18 PM
So how would I make them remember themselves
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Usually i just wait and keep trying... then they start talking again
1:20 PM
I've used the pendulum method for eishi a few times when that has happened
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So like currently rn I'm not really think about my tulpa benn so like he's kinda offline rn he could be doing his own thing for what I know
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Kei Wendt
I've used the pendulum method for eishi a few times when that has happened
I wanna try that
1:22 PM
The pendulum method wouldn't probably work well for us though
1:22 PM
I just dont think it would
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Fair enough
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KIZO!
So like currently rn I'm not really think about my tulpa benn so like he's kinda offline rn he could be doing his own thing for what I know
If I start thinking about him more and start talking to him or calling I'll get responses
1:24 PM
Let me try
1:24 PM
He said hi
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wane ・💤🧠 BOT 7/8/2023 1:24 PM
yes I said hi
1:24 PM
that is true
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Blaff・🌺 ・💤🧠 BOT 7/8/2023 1:26 PM
I find it funny how he can like focus on different details that I'm not seeing like one day there was this fancy cup I was using to drink some water and I just thought it was a star but noooo he pointed out that it wasn't a star because it had more like edges and points and I didn't even see that
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Actually i have a suspicion about why my headmates are less present sometimes and why i disappear sometimes I dissociate pretty often, so it could just be me like... depersonalizing away? Ofc there are other possibilities but it is something that happens with me so i wouldn't be surprised If you dissociate too maybe that could be a factor? However i would be careful not to conflate it with DID still since DID has specific dissociative symptoms that aren't always the same as dissociation from other disorders. Dissociation is present in disorders other than DID so i'd try not to get caught up in it
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